It is notable that the moderator of the “Christian” Left Facebook page admitted on this blog that he doesn’t attend church regularly (he then twisted Matthew 18 to say that he and his wife make up the church). So it was amusing when a found of the “Christian” Left, false teacher Mark “Jesus is not my God” Sandlin, had another fluff-piece blaming Bible-believing (read: authentic) Christians for people leaving the church.
I noted 1 John 2:19 in the comments (They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.) which got the “Christian” Left commenters to tell me how I got the verse wrong, and everyone always get verses wrong, except for them. From part of the comments:
“Sorry, but you do not get to decide who is in “active rebellion” to God, although it seems you would like to.”
Uh, but you get to decide who gets to decide who is in active rebellion? Stop judging!
I’m just going with the word of God. Romans 1:18–20 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
“You say it is the word of God, but you are mistaken. It is the word of God, plus what YOU have decided it is saying.”
Well, duh. The same as you “Christian” Left people do. Only I can back up my claims by pointing to the original languages, the context, etc. You are the fakes who see over 100 passages claiming Jesus is the only way to salvation and conclude that He isn’t.
“That argument has gone on all throughout history spawning a Catholic church, an Orthodox church, and 10’s of thousand of Protestant denominations, and still goes on even today. “
Your argument that someone will always disagree, therefore we can’t know the truth, is foolish. Go to any “Christian” Left site, including this one, and watch how they claim to know what the Bible “really” says.
For grins, perhaps you could show me on the Interwebs you chastise them for thinking they know what the Bible says. I mean, you do use the same standard for them, right? You go up to your pastor each week and remind him that no one really knows what it says, right? Because otherwise you’d be a hypocrite.
“Are we supposed to close off our minds to new revelation, assuming we know all we need to know? No. “
Wait . . . you are adamant that we can’t know what the original word of God meant, but that we can now understand new revelations? That’s fascinating. Leopard Theology (aka Dalmatian Theology) is where people claim that the Bible is only inspired in spots and that they are inspired to spot the spots. Then there is Advanced Leopard Theology, where God is also changing spots and adding and removing spots, and, oddly enough, He is only telling theological Leftists and “Progressives.” You jumped straight to the advanced group!
“Have we ever been wrong about all it says before? Most definitely and untold suffering has been the result.”
You are right! The pro-abortion “Christian” Left has made 3,500 crushed and dismembered children each day possible because they deliberately misunderstand the Bible.
“You are bearing false witness, puffing yourself up, sowing discord, and putting yourself in the place of God. “
That’s false, but what is amusing is that you think those Bible phrases mean what you think they mean. Where did all the “we don’t know what it means!!” humility go? You didn’t even make it through your comment without a hypocritical contradiction!
“It is precisely this kind of attitude that has led to the rise of “dones”. “
Then you should stop doing it yourself.
“The rebellion, if there is one, is not against God, it’s against the falseness and hypocrisy of those places we may call church, but have little in common with the Church.”
Yeah, like people do deny the deity of Jesus — such as Mark Sandlin!